The Ogle Family

 

The Ogle family have an extremely long and distinguished history.

Several areas of Kingdoms owned and named by/after; namely Northumberland, Beacon Hill, Newcastle, the city of Samhain, etc. to just name a few.

 

Previous to being in British Northumberland the Ogle family were in Carthage, the 18th Egyptian Dynasty, and the City of Troy.

 

 

The official Ogle Family begin at Hastings with De Ogle and his son Humphries de Ogle.

From there it is all male line to Elmer Ogle of Tiffin Ohio. Elmer’s Great Grandfather Thomas Ogle interacted with Joseph Smith the founder of the LDS Church. Elmer bore only one child Helen, who only bore one child Mary Lou, who bore two boys Wes Ogle Welling and Gene, Wes bore one child TR Welling.

 

Of course over the course of a full millennia it is impossible to assume every parent only bore one child. Each daughter and son some produced children some did not. But there are many different branches to the Ogle family.

Ogle family members are named in history books regarding some of the most key aspects of the development of Western Culture, including the Academics, Psychology, and least we forget

 

Hadrian Roman

Begun in AD 122

200-400 in exile

In exile in Normandy for the first recorded time. Immediately following when hadrien built a wall literally cutting the ogle influence in half.

Kings of

(Hane) Yr Hen Ogledd.

Ogle

400-826

After the roman empire fell the ogles came back to reclaim their territory.

But the mercers already reclaimed their London and the merci areas. Declairing themselves kinds of englaihd.

Engliand is from mercia south to the sea, minus cornwall.

Britain is from just south or York the northern boarder of mercia up to Scotland.

During the 400-800 scotland started north of the firth of foel or north or st Andrews.

Camelot ?400-500

York

Edinburgh

New Castle

Conquered by the Picts and Scots

830?

Age of the Vikings

The Vikings landed at Northumberland exactly where they had for the previous 800 years. Hired as mercenaries by the ogle royal family as an ever renewable army to defend against constant and continuous attacks from the

Picts,

Scotts

Welch

Mercia

Danes

Jutes

Anglo’s

Saxon’s

Who at 780  ce formed an allange together and conwquered the ogles. Forcing the ogles into exile.

That exile the ogles went to Holland/Normandy.

In exile in Normandy 826-1050

The ogles escaped to Normandy for 200 years till a cousin put an army together and invaded.

de OGLE circa 1000 
Saxony, Germany

circa 1000

Hoggel of Northumberland

Hoggel of of Northumberland Icn_world Icn_collaborator_both_14

Birth:   1034 Citation_note

Death:             1088 (54) Citation_note

Humphrey De OGLE (Sir Knight)

Humphrey (Sir Knight) de Ogle 1055-1125 Icn_world Icn_collaborator_both_14

Place of Burial:           Northumberland National Park

Birth:   1055

Northumberland, England Citation_note

Death:             1125 (70)

Ogle, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England

de Ogle

Birth: 1085 
Ogle, United Kingdom Death: 1167 (82) 
Ogle, United Kingdom

Gilbert De Ogle

Birth:   1130

Ogle Castle, Ogle, Northumberland, England Citation_note

Death:             1182 (52)

Northumberland, UK

Sir Richard de Ogle

Birth:   Ogle, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England

Death:             circa 1252

Ogle Castle, Northumberland, UK, UK

Thomas Ogle, Sir Knight

Birth:   1219

Ogle Castle, Northumberland, England Citation_note

Death:             1270 (51)

Bothal Castle, Northumberland, UK, UK

John de Ogle

Birth:   circa 1264

Bothal Demesne, Morpeth, Northumberland, England Citation_note

Death:             July 3, 1323 (59)

Bothal, Northumberland, England

Sir Robert de Ogle, I

Birth:   circa 1295

Bothal Castle, Bothal, Northumberland, England Citation_note

Death:             circa 1330 (35)

Bothal, Northumberland, England

Robert de Ogle, II

Birth:   circa 1315

Ogle Castle, Ogle, Northumberland, England Citation_note

Death:             June 16, 1362 (47)

Northam, Northumberland, England

Sir Robert de Ogle, III, Baron of Bothal

Birth:   May 10, 1331

Ogle Castle, Northumberland, , England Citation_note

Death:             November, 1375 (44)

Berwick Castle, Berwick, Wiltshire, England

Sir Robert de Ogle, IV, Baron of Ogle

Place of Burial:           Hexham Abbey, Northumberland, England

Birth:   December 8, 1351

Ogle Castle, Ogle, Northumberland, England Citation_note

Death:             October 31, 1409 (57)

, Hexham, Northumberland, England

Robert Ogle, V, High S iff of Bothal

Birth:   May 21, 1379

Ogle Castle, Northumberland, England Citation_note

Death:             August 12, 1436 (57)

Bothal, Redesdale, Northumberland, England

William Ogle, of Choppington

Birth:   circa 1412

Choppington, Northumberland, England

Death:             August 10, 1474 (62)

Prudhoe, Northumberland, England

Henry OGLE

Birth:   1450

Ogle, United Kingdom

Death:             circa 1541 (91)

Northumberland, UK

Luke Ogle

Birth:   circa 1520

Eglingham, Northumberland, England

Death:             circa 1542 (22)

Ogle, United Kingdom

Luke OGLE of Eglingham

Birth:   circa 1540

Eglingham, Northumberland, England

Death:             November 23, 1597 (57)

England

Luke OGLE of Eglingham

Birth:   circa 1580

Eglingham, Northumberland, England

Death:             July 29, 1604 (24)

England

Captain Henry

Birth:   circa 1600

Eglingham, Northumberland, England

Death:             1669 (69)

Ogle, United Kingdom

John (of Eglingham) Ogle, Capt.

Birth:

November 25, 1621 
Morpeth, Northumberland, England

Death:

circa 1686 (65) 
Eglingham, England

1.Eleanor PRINGLE was born ABT 1631 in Stitchell,, Scotland, and died BEF 1666 in Eglingham, Northumberland, England. She marriedJohn OGLE 1648 in ,, Scotland, son of Henry OGLE and Jane FORSTER. He was born NOV 1621 in Morpeth, Northumberland, England, and died BEF 11 JUN 1686 in Eglingham, Northumberland, England.

 

ID: I08530

Name: Eleanor PRINGLE

Sex: F

Birth: ABT 1631 in Stitchell,, Scotland

Death: BEF 1666 in Eglingham, Northumberland, England

Event: AFN M4XC-GQ

·  Reference Number: 8530

John (of Delaware) Ogle

Birth:

September 30, 1649 
Berick Upon Tweed, Northumberland, England

Death:

February 8, 1684 (34) 
New Castle, Delaware, United States

Immediate Family:

Son of Captain John Ogle of Eglingham andEleanor Ogle of Eglingham
Husband of 
Elizabeth Petersdotter andElizabeth Ogle
Father of 
Thomas OgleJohn Ogle, Jr.Mary OgleThomas Ogle and William Ogle

Thomas Ogle 1667-1734

Birth:   January 23, 1749

Frederick, Maryland, United States

Joseph Ogle

Birth:   1707

New Castle, New Castle County, DE

Death:             1756 (49)

Frederick, MD, USA

Thomas Ogle

Birth:

1666 
New Castle, New Castle, Delaware, United States

Death:

July 13, 1734 (68) 
New Castle, New Castle, Delaware, United States

Immediate Family:

Son of John (of Delaware) Ogle and Elizabeth Ogle
Husband of 
Mary Crawford and Elizabeth Ogle
Father of 
Thomas Ogle, Jr.John OgleJoseph OgleJames OgleJudah Ogle and 9 others
Brother of 
John Ogle, Jr.Mary OgleThomas Ogle and William Ogle

Joseph Ogle

Birth:

1707 
New Castle, New Castle County, DE

Death:

1756 (49) 
Frederick, MD, USA

Immediate Family:

Son of Thomas Ogle and Mary Crawford
Husband of 
Sarah Ogle/Winters
Father of 
Thomas OgleCaptain Joseph Ogle;William Ogle and John Ogle
Brother of 
Thomas Ogle, Jr.John Ogle;James OgleJudah OgleBenjamin Ogle and2 others
Half brother of 
David OgleElizabeth McDonaldSusannah OgleJane Ogle;Alexander Ogle, Sr. and 1 other

Thomas Ogle

Birth:

January 23, 1749 
Frederick, Maryland, United States

Death:

1790 (41) 
Maples farm, , Tiffin, OH, USA

Immediate Family:

Son of Joseph Ogle and Sarah Ogle/Winters
Husband of 
Sybilla Ogle
Father of 
Margaret Thomas (Ogle) and Joseph Ogle
Brother of 
Captain Joseph OgleWilliam Ogleand John Ogle

Oversaw part of the construction of the Maples in the 1770s, likely earlier.

Fought against the FreiKorp in Tiffin, which destroyed the original House “Mansion”. The preplacement was a temporary cabin currently obliterated from records under Lowes nex to the mound which was just 100 or so feet from the corner of 224 and Market south east.

Joseph Ogle

Birth:

circa 1781 Tiffin, OH, USA

Death:

circa 1864 (83) Tiffin, OH, USA

Immediate Family:

Son of Thomas Ogle and Sybilla Ogle
Husband of 
Elizabeth Ogle
Father of 
William Ogle and Thomas Ogle
Brother of 
Margaret Thomas (Ogle)

Would have interacted with Joseph Smith Personally

Thomas Ogle

Birth:

circa 1816 Tiffin, OH, USA

Death:

circa 1899 (83) Tiffin, OH, USA

Immediate Family:

Son of Joseph Ogle and Elizabeth Ogle
Husband of 
Mary Ogle
Father of 
Elmer Ogle
Brother of 
William Ogle

Would have interacted with Joseph Smith Personally.

In his late 20s and early 30s fought the Prussians in Tiffin first hand. Was present when the library on the south side of the River was captured which brought in Wilhelm Wundt, Oliver Cowdery, nad of course traveling under false papers Joseph Smith.

Would be entirely fascinating ifn the Beaver Island was in part created by the Ogles to ferry Loyal to Smith LDS from America to Germany to support Smith and eventually release him from slavery.

Elmer Ogle

Place of Burial:           Tiffin, OH, USA

Birth:   1861

Tiffin, OH, USA

Death:             February 13, 1942 (81)

Tiffin, OH, USA

Helen Shaffer

Tiffin, OH, USA

Mary Lou Welling

Wes Welling

Died Ormand Beach, Florida

T “T.R.” Robert  Welling

 

The Paperwork on the other hand does not stop with De Ogle. The newly installed King of England (which would be London and Mercia Lands) the King of Ogle or its new name Northumberland was De Ogle.

In William’s own hand he write “I give the Kingdom of Ogle back to the Ogle family”.

The Ogles were forced to leave/evacuate their own island and kingdom for Normandy, Ireland, and the east Coast of America in order to survive the wave of Islamic Warriors first Fatimah Brought with her and then Abu Bakr’s army followed. By the time Abu Bakr’s army arrived the Ogle army had just defeated the Islamic Picts at the Pictish Revolt and were rebuilding after decades of fending off that army.

So when Abu’s army arrived decades after his death the Ogles were ill prepared. Their defenses were down, their numbers were too depleted, and the culture itself was war weary.

All in all it was not a time to take on an entire 100,000s men Islamic army intent on geocoding everything connected to either Fatimah and or non-believers.

Since there is little way the Ogles could follow as a united culture the teachings of Esau, they were all subject to being human sacrificed to allah to win a favorable place in heaven. Despite god’s first order of “do not kill, marking Caine forget”.

The Age of the Viking officially begins.

But previous to 680 ce, the Ogles owned the Ogle Kingdom from southern Sherwood forest to most of present day Scotland.

 

Which by legend the Age of Camelot existed between 350-700 give or take a few decades, the Ogles were present, strong, and possessed a standing army large enough to crush the entire Roman Empire’s Army at Hadrian’s’. Did so 100s of times. One of those crushing defeats was literally against Konstantinus. Which he was on his knees on the battle field forced to marry the daughter of the commanding general of the Ogles oldest Daughter Helena.

Helena and Konstantinus’ marriage lasted 10 years. Practically every second was unhappily, she was a profoundly better warrior than he. He attempted to be abusive, and came off worse for the wear.

But it did produce a son, Constantine. Later to be known as Constantine the Great, the founder of the Byzantium Empire and the city of Constantinople, and the founder of the Constantinople library.

Constantine put both the Ogle family library and the Roman library together at Constantinople. Producing one of the largest libraries in the world.

The Crushing defeat of the Romans proves the size and virility in battle of the Ogle army. It also proves that the army was just as capable 200 years later when Fatimah came a calling.

 

The only army in the entire British Isles capable of taking on the Romans and Islamic defeating them both. Sounds like an army of legend.

The Welch never possessed anywhere close to the population needed to produce an army of that size or training. That requires the warrior to train all day long for their entire life’s to be that skilled in Battle.

The Welsh only produced a population large enough to do that post 1700s industrial revolution.

 

The story backwards in time regarding the Ogle family does become more and more complex.

 

There is a huge reason the Romans from 30 bce to 400 were on mass and more than half the of the entire Roman Army were stationed at Haiden’s and or where Hadrian’s would be built in 130 bce.

You see the facts regarding Cleopatra are mostly fiction.

Mostly but not all.

She did start out as a Teenager in the company of Julius Caesar. She was one of the smartest and wise thinkers of the entire Roman Empire. She did have information from previous strategies regarding what the Romans would do.

She had all the advantages, including devastating beauty, and her own equal to the Roman Empire Army, an Education which far exceeded that of most of the highest educated Romans. But when your education eg Roman is restricted to mostly fiction and the junk the Greek City/State wanted to sell the populations. A real science, mathematics, linguistics, strategies, and psychological education and a fiction based education has no comparison.

It is like a full creationist education trying to complete in a science Olympics. Creationism has no basis in fact, science is all facts.

 

The Roman Army were dispatched by Octavian just before he was given the name Augustus to honor him for killing Cleopatra. Despite the fact he did not kill her, she sailed directly out of Actium to Italy. Picked up some needed supplies, then sailed out of the Mediterranean, up the coast to her New kingdom and set up shop behind her reassembled army.

The Roman Army followed her, but were soundly defeated in practically every wave.

 

Cleopatra’s first three children were all from Caesar, allowing Anthony to touch her was simply and in all ways unactable period. He was a Man at Arms, e.g. he was nothing more than a XO of her Roman portion of her army. She had her own Man at Arms of her Egyptian Army. But Anthony was never, not once allowed to touch her or be within 5 feet of her. That is pure Roman Mythology. He was the head of her Roman Security detail. She was Pharaoh of Egypt and Empress of Rome, she was nothing more than a purchased commissioned officer in her husbands Army. He was class wise an average Roman, he had money from trading and business. His ancestors were just commoners. She was from a long time of Pharaoh’s, talk about breaking Royal Protocol for her to be within 5 feet of him. He would never be allowed into her bedroom, let alone her bed. That was for her Egyptian Guard to stand around her Bed while she slept.

 

Now that those facts are cleared up. What does Cleopatra have to do with the Kingdom of Ogle, she is why the army was present. They were trying to kill her clandestinely, but failed miserably.

 

Next to her oldest son, Caesarian. At his “coming out party” Octavian was invited but pulled a very nasty act. He planned the event perfectly. He asked to hold his new relative, and instead of holding him nicely, he ran out of the room, into the protection of his person and loyal guards in the next room. Betrayal his great uncle, Cleopatra, and the Emperor of Rome. He informed them that if any harm came to him, he would immediately kill the child. This would be the last time out of his control either would see the child. The child with always have a guard within 5 feet with at last one blade ordered to cut the child’s head off if they every attempted to harm Octavin for the rest of his life.

He would be the next emperor, and after his time. He would happily give the title of emperor over to the renamed Tiberius. But only after he forced him to be raised as his own step son, and indoctrinate him to think well of his stepdad Octavian. The name means “dirty Jew”.

If the child rose to too much power too quickly he would happily tell the senate the Julian family secret, that his father had converted to Judaism when he was about 15. The child would be raised to be a secret Jew, in order to maintain the family ties and allow the senate evidence of the Jewish connection. Which was an automatic execution offense.

Every time Cleopatra saw her oldest from that moment on, was under the strictest of parameters set up by Octavian. But she did not see him after the Assassination of Caesar, because Octavin wanted her to commit suicide, and would happily kill her in front of her son so she would not be a political or military threat.

But since Octavian wrote all the history, he left out this little part.

Octavian was also a sexual deviant, according to a couple rumor sources used by the “Rome” tv show on cable. But he was not drawn to pedophilia, he was drawn to only females but rather kinky. His wife was allowed to interact with her step son, e.g. reported to be her actual son. Most of Tiberius’ adult behaviors were a direct reflection of an inappropriate intimacy with his fake mother. And violent threats from father.

He was only informed later in life who is real parents were.

The parentage of Caligula is notorious and of course pure fiction.

 

Caligula was assassinated like his grandfather and Caligula for being a Jew. For Caesar he was killed, for Tiberius he was also killed. But Caligula only his body double was executed he had left the area weeks before hand. Handing the Emperors seat to someone else, an emperor who also has not parentage, and absolutely zero documentation which exists previous to a single generation.

That Empror was on the throne for the next give or take three decades.

 

That Emperor was Claudius supposedly was on the throne for only 13 years, but htat is another senate lie. The senate grew angry about a Jew on the throne and chose to elect a sequence of puppets who had no power, but they could document their existence.

It was not till Vespasian that the new emperor with full emperor powers was in charge. He was born in Lugdunum Gaul.

Claudius was most likely none other than Simon Peter.

Several things to remember.

Every single Pharaoh from Narmer to Cleopatra was given at least one new name. Two every single pope from the first to the current are given at least one new name. from 3200 bce to 2017 which is more than 5200 years, the only pope and Pharaoh of Egypt not given more than one name was Simon Peter.

The 5200 years of broken facts, leads to the idea that Emmanuelle was given the names Simon Peter, and Claudius first upon accepting the station of pharaoh of Egypt courtesy of his cousin Tiberious’s death (37 ce aka the exact year which Emmanuelle aka Jesus Christ began his church in Jerusalem), and two the exact year 1400 days later he became emperor of Rome as well.

 

By legend the man who gave Jesus his own person tomb in the catacombs left Rome shortly after and headed straight to Northumberland. With several supplies associated with Jesus.

Some of those supplies have been found, but it is entirely unprovable any connection to Joseph of Arimathea. Other than he was a Roman Citizen who owned land in Rome proper. Which means that either his father, himself, or a first blood generation male relative was in the army.

He sought refuge behind the walls of the Ogle army protection.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

TR Welling